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there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned. they have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a lot of bipartisan defense spending. for example, the defense authorization bill that just passed yesterday in the senate gave the pentagon $17 billion more than they asked for. so to think that any industry or any taxpayer or any group of people who depend on government spending can be exempted from the serious problem that we have that's caused by this deficit is a mistake. everybody is going to have to pay for this. >> dawn, right or wrong, the defense industry has this reputation of being bloated, overcharging. are we at a point where we could afford to make cuts in defense spending to try and satisfy the needs of lowering the deficit in this country? >> you know, the real issue we've already seen through the budget control act, the defense has already witnessed significant cuts. i think when you're looking at the resolution here, resolving the negotiations so we don't go to the fiscal cliff, the real issue is everybody
there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned. they have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a lot of bipartisan defense spending. for example, the defense authorization bill that just passed yesterday in the senate gave the pentagon $17 billion more than they asked for. so to think that any industry or any taxpayer or any group of people who depend on government spending can be exempted from the serious problem that we have that's...
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not the obvious ones like defense. given the defense budget will be cut dramatically if our leaders don't reach a compromise, take retail. if we go over the cliff, something i've been telling you as of this week, more likely by the day, not less, that will deal a huge blow it purchasing power of most americans. think about it. tax rates go up. >> boo. >> the payroll tax holiday goes away. [ buzzer ] unemployment benefits expire for most people -- [ baby crying ] and that's is not even accounting for the layoffs. that's just being cautious. put it together, unless we get a deal, which won't be bad news for the single biggest consumer play out there, which is retail. so even though we're having a real good holiday shopping season that we're seeing so far. pbh told us that. you expect retail to be in trouble. once the holidays ends, things can get a whole lot worse. not just the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago aggregate retail sales that showed a 3% decline. last friday's gdp indicated that growth and personal consumption dec
not the obvious ones like defense. given the defense budget will be cut dramatically if our leaders don't reach a compromise, take retail. if we go over the cliff, something i've been telling you as of this week, more likely by the day, not less, that will deal a huge blow it purchasing power of most americans. think about it. tax rates go up. >> boo. >> the payroll tax holiday goes away. [ buzzer ] unemployment benefits expire for most people -- [ baby crying ] and that's is not...
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overall you would think orders, like future orders, which is what defense spending -- defense stocks trade on would be noticeable to the downside and there's ate lot of worry. not underperforming the market. since the beginning of the deekz december, they have been outperforming. >> go ahead, debra. >> been at the tax rates before and it wasn't like nobody jumped out of market. stocks did outperform at market. >> but that was a very different time, wasn't it? we were on the east internet. you had dotcoms soaring and money moving into technology right before the year 2000. we had a balanced budget. in fact, a surplus under president clinton. very different economic moment. >> right, but you can still argue that you also have another internet boom going on with the mobile boom. >> i think the big thing here is the overall market continues to hold up very, very well. did you hear harry reid? the senate majority leader says i don't think we'll get a deal by christmas. would you think that's a real negative for the market. only lost 25 or 30 points in the dow on that. that surprised me. >
overall you would think orders, like future orders, which is what defense spending -- defense stocks trade on would be noticeable to the downside and there's ate lot of worry. not underperforming the market. since the beginning of the deekz december, they have been outperforming. >> go ahead, debra. >> been at the tax rates before and it wasn't like nobody jumped out of market. stocks did outperform at market. >> but that was a very different time, wasn't it? we were on the...
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industries like aerospace and defense in particular. through the defense cuts, they'll be substantially impacted. >> we'll leave it there. thanks for being on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> so much for the fiscal cliff. why is the head of td bank group so bullish on the united states right now? he'll join me for another cnbc exclusive next. we'll also talk about his company's earnings. >>> later, will the shaky global economy throw a wrench into luxury goods maker ppr's balance sheet? back in a flash plp. . there is no mass-produced human. every human being is unique. and there is one store that recognizes it. the sleep number store. the only place in the world you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. an exclusive collection of innovations that totally individualize your sleep. perfectly comfortable pillows that adjust to your size and shape. temperature-balancing bedding. dual warmth comforters. all designed around the sleep number bed: a bed with dual-air technology that allows you to adjust to th
industries like aerospace and defense in particular. through the defense cuts, they'll be substantially impacted. >> we'll leave it there. thanks for being on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> so much for the fiscal cliff. why is the head of td bank group so bullish on the united states right now? he'll join me for another cnbc exclusive next. we'll also talk about his company's earnings. >>> later, will the shaky global economy throw a wrench into luxury goods...
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a great defense company. on top of which you're getting one of the best ultra luxury good manufacturers in gulf stream at the same time. as you all have been talking about, we think at the last possible moment after republicans and democrats have exhausted every other alternative, they'll do the bare minimum and kick the can down the road on most of it. we don't think sequestration is likely to hit. we think general dynamics business is a good business, a lot of exposure to emerging markets outside the u.s. their tech service business is doing well, even the combat and marine divisions we think will be more resilient than people are giving them credit for. and they've got a blue chip balance sheet, strong balance sheet, strong cash generation, around 10% free cash flow yield and ten times earnings right now. so we like long-term fundamentals. again, we think that republicans and democrats will kick the can down the road. and, remember, the fiscal cliff is not really a cliff. even if we come to january 1st, it
a great defense company. on top of which you're getting one of the best ultra luxury good manufacturers in gulf stream at the same time. as you all have been talking about, we think at the last possible moment after republicans and democrats have exhausted every other alternative, they'll do the bare minimum and kick the can down the road on most of it. we don't think sequestration is likely to hit. we think general dynamics business is a good business, a lot of exposure to emerging markets...
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>> yes. >> australian defense minister. whatever you down there. is warning people, dent use apple maps. it could be fatal. some people got lost in a national park. >> right. giving incomplete instructions. >> right. left at the dingo, right at the crocodile. they were getting stuck. australian police said don't use apple maps, they are dangerous. which is just bizarre. >> it is bizarre. feels like it is a little dire. in terms after warning. >> yeah. if you're under a national park in the outskirts, you're not in the hard streets of melbourne. >> people get lost in those national parks all the time. i get lost in them. follow the national dingos. follow the ants. they are going to water. >> maybe the dingo ate your lunch. >> i'm stopping there. >>> there is a concern that apps aimed at kids may track and store information about them without letting parents know. julia has been following this story for us from los angeles, and she is a mother also. julia, tell us more. >> well, mandy, the title of the fdc's new report says it all. the report is cal
>> yes. >> australian defense minister. whatever you down there. is warning people, dent use apple maps. it could be fatal. some people got lost in a national park. >> right. giving incomplete instructions. >> right. left at the dingo, right at the crocodile. they were getting stuck. australian police said don't use apple maps, they are dangerous. which is just bizarre. >> it is bizarre. feels like it is a little dire. in terms after warning. >> yeah. if...
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record high in the defense index. the philadelphia defense index, a lot of the components, ged, lockheed martin, names we have been talking about, as stocks to buy if there is a deal reached. brian, i think you are actually, that was one of your -- >> we talked about lockheed last night. certainly they are getting this boost because people are buying into the hope that there's going to be some kind of deal done. we had a big selloff since september. so, we have a lot of the fiscal cliff priced in, or at least the worst case scenario. so, now you get a little bit of short cover here. i wouldn't be plowing into these stocks right now, particularly after today's news. just seems -- i think there's better places to go and tim hit on it. look to europe, look to asia. that's where the growth is. there's better places than here in the u.s. >> we should note the mission critical coverage continues today on cnbc. larrdlow next on location with a special show from there at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. you see there his guests, jon k
record high in the defense index. the philadelphia defense index, a lot of the components, ged, lockheed martin, names we have been talking about, as stocks to buy if there is a deal reached. brian, i think you are actually, that was one of your -- >> we talked about lockheed last night. certainly they are getting this boost because people are buying into the hope that there's going to be some kind of deal done. we had a big selloff since september. so, we have a lot of the fiscal cliff...
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they're not taking the type of defensive, decisive action. if we get a downgrade and if this happens, it will be terrible for the market. that's what's potentially on the market, if we don't make a deal in washington. >> scott, let me ask you again how you want to allocate capital then in that environment. i know george young is with us again, joining the conversation. i want to ask you the same question. go ahead, scott. how are you investing right now? >> maria, i think the best way forward is the way it's worked since the bottom of the market in 2009. risk assets are where it's at. the fed is very supportive. the consumer is back and engaged. housing is getting better. the fiscal cliff is actually constructive from the standpoint it causes people to come together and compromise because going over the cliff while we may do it for a short time period is not beneficial to anybody. it hurts everybody. >> so risk assets being, what, technology? what does that mean, technology? >> not necessarily. we would stay with dividend payers. we would als
they're not taking the type of defensive, decisive action. if we get a downgrade and if this happens, it will be terrible for the market. that's what's potentially on the market, if we don't make a deal in washington. >> scott, let me ask you again how you want to allocate capital then in that environment. i know george young is with us again, joining the conversation. i want to ask you the same question. go ahead, scott. how are you investing right now? >> maria, i think the best...
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former deputy assistant defense secretary. rula let me begin with you. is this going to blow up into a civil war and blow up? >> no, i think it is against him grabbing power. it is a sign that he needs to back off and drop the decrees and make a constitution that is not acceptable by the egyptians. he is not governing in the name of the muslim brotherhood. he needs to listen to them. >> his recent actions suggest that the answer is no. and that is he going his own way. >> i hope she is right. everyone that you can think of is that the people who prevailed is that the people who are the most organized are the most ruthless. i want to ask you about the role of al qaeda in iraq and in jordon. could this spread to iraq? >> i think they have nothing to do with each other. it is wrong. they are two different cultures. they are a million years away from each other. let protesters are civil enough not to become violent. you saw the soldiers and the police men. they let them say what they wanted. and the us aid. and here the government has a major role because we
former deputy assistant defense secretary. rula let me begin with you. is this going to blow up into a civil war and blow up? >> no, i think it is against him grabbing power. it is a sign that he needs to back off and drop the decrees and make a constitution that is not acceptable by the egyptians. he is not governing in the name of the muslim brotherhood. he needs to listen to them. >> his recent actions suggest that the answer is no. and that is he going his own way. >> i...
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that's why secretary of defense panetta and the president of the united states warned assad publicly about using wmd or chemical weapons against his own people. but let's remember he has more or less given control over a lot of his wmd stock piles, of which it is a huge amount to potentially hezbollah or irani revolutionary guards who are forces for the desperate forces that fight for the survival of the regime. >> let's assume you're right and he's transferring these weapons and missiles. what can we do about these? >> on two things we can do. incinerate the stock piles from the air before they're tliefl loaded on scud missiles or it's going to take a significant ground invasion of about 50,000 troops from wherever they're going to come from, i don't know, to basically secure these stock piles because syria, larry, has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the entire middle east outside of iran. >> that statement, 50,000 troops to secure it. who and where is that going to come from? >> well, that's the question of what do as the president mean when he said that syria better n
that's why secretary of defense panetta and the president of the united states warned assad publicly about using wmd or chemical weapons against his own people. but let's remember he has more or less given control over a lot of his wmd stock piles, of which it is a huge amount to potentially hezbollah or irani revolutionary guards who are forces for the desperate forces that fight for the survival of the regime. >> let's assume you're right and he's transferring these weapons and...
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one of those firms is schwab, they say they can adjust defenses if they see any violations. maria, back to you. >> mary, thank you so much. coming up next, illinois congresswoman jan schakowsky says there's no way a deal can be reached and if union workers don't get the health care benefits they want may walk out, this after unions are making moves across the board in business that have put certain firms out of business. we've got the debate coming up. what are you up to? oh, just diagramming this accident with my state farm pocket agent app. you can also get a quote and pay your premium with this thing. i thought state farm didn't have all those apps? where did you hear that? the internet. and you believed it? yeah. they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. where did you hear that? [ both ] the internet. oh look. here comes my date. i met him on the internet. he's a french model. uh, bonjour. [ male announcer ] state farm. more mobile than ever. get to a better state. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i ne
one of those firms is schwab, they say they can adjust defenses if they see any violations. maria, back to you. >> mary, thank you so much. coming up next, illinois congresswoman jan schakowsky says there's no way a deal can be reached and if union workers don't get the health care benefits they want may walk out, this after unions are making moves across the board in business that have put certain firms out of business. we've got the debate coming up. what are you up to? oh, just...
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and why doesn't the president offer spending cuts to medicare and defense and social security? how about weapons programs that don't fit in the terrorism world? how about foreign aid and maybe haggle with the drug companies. trying to be helpful, i'm sure some of today's rallies are based on the belief that says some of today's rally is better than tomorrow. but what, he is the fed chief. the levels of purchase have gotten a little insane. it's good for them but bad for those who have been buying stocks. they are confident that they will keep rates low. it will run up into the fed statement and then sell off. you might as well wait for the market to come in. we will be back on cliff watch. if there is any big news, it is that i have a bunch of politicians to agree that there should be no vacation without legislation. or they are getting our critical message on this issue. maybe everybody i spoke to is ready to rise above these labels. put these pins on their lapels. time to avoid the cliff. that is a prescription for the wealth creation that is dependant upon washington's polic
and why doesn't the president offer spending cuts to medicare and defense and social security? how about weapons programs that don't fit in the terrorism world? how about foreign aid and maybe haggle with the drug companies. trying to be helpful, i'm sure some of today's rallies are based on the belief that says some of today's rally is better than tomorrow. but what, he is the fed chief. the levels of purchase have gotten a little insane. it's good for them but bad for those who have been...
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this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie windsor who married her partner in canada. the partner died and left edie the estate. the federal government said we can't recognize you as married. the irs says you're not married as far as we're concerned she got hit with a tax bill of $363,000. >> we'll leave it there. many thanks. nbc's pete williams. now let's get right to our panel tonight. democratic strategic jimmy williams. wabz radio talk show host mark seimone and washington times opinion writer cari picket. we have a number of topics to chew on this evening. let's begin with the breaking news out of the scouupreme cour and a legal challenge major implications for federal and private benefit payments. cari, let me go to you first and get your first reaction to this. federal versus state. constitutional liberty and rights. the end of the doma act.
this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie windsor who married her partner in canada. the partner died and left edie the estate. the federal government said we can't recognize you as married. the irs says you're not married as far as we're concerned...
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defense may be under pressure, consumers may be under pressure. global technology may get a green light in all of this. what it will do is sort out winners from losers and allow investors to focus energy and money. the market wants to go higher at this point. >> dan, i'll tell you what market should go higher in all of this, u.s. treasury market, if spending goes down and tax grab from the taxpayers going up, ie, government revenue, shouldn't that boost u.s. treasuries? >> boost prices? >> why not? >> certainly to the extent austerity is more vicious -- >> and the dollar. >> than is currently modelled, that would be optimistic for treasury market and currency market. listen, at the end of the day, this whole idea of the fiscal cliff, they are going to figure this out and kick the can down the road and give themselves nine months or a year to figure this out. it's not going -- this is not going to stick. is just simply not. >> dan, here is the problem. if they wait until fourth of july to get this done -- how long is the can? call it mamp when they
defense may be under pressure, consumers may be under pressure. global technology may get a green light in all of this. what it will do is sort out winners from losers and allow investors to focus energy and money. the market wants to go higher at this point. >> dan, i'll tell you what market should go higher in all of this, u.s. treasury market, if spending goes down and tax grab from the taxpayers going up, ie, government revenue, shouldn't that boost u.s. treasuries? >> boost...
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. >> it's homeland security, not just defense. >> yeah. that's always been one of the mischaracterizatio mischaracterizations. think of it as all national security. there's other parts that go into medicare providers also. >> can i possibly talk you into leaving the capital gains tax rate alone and the dividends tax rate? they're pro investment, pro capital formation. they help inves tors and retirees and help start new businesses. i know certain tax rates will goup whether i like it or not. can icon vince you to leave capital gains alone? >> it's all on the table. only two people know. that's president obama and speaker baner. i haven't spoken to them today. they're not talking publically. but they are negotiating. i believe getting closer. you have to realize as part of the budget agreement of 2011 we did agree on $1.1 trillion in cuts. that's already there. and i also believe that it's very important that we raise the debt ceiling when we do the fiscal -- >> you will never get it. let me ask you. will the democrats get an increase in an
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in fact, in my district i have a major base and defense contractors are there. they are already telling me they are laying off. >> how many cuts are you expecting? >> we don't know in total but we know there will be because they are telling us. >> i think you have to be willing to commit political harry kerry because you have to say no. >> our day in washington isn't done, just beginning. top of the next hour maria and i will be joined by senator johnny isakson. back to you guys. >> maria, brian, thank you very much. will a fiscal cliff deal be done in time? why don't you register your opinion. finance.cnbc. cast your vote. results will come up later on "power lunch." sue. >> we have a triple digit rally on the floor of the new york stock exchange with the dow jones industrial just off the highs of the trading session. we're up 109 points on the dow despite the gridlock in washington. nasdaq is up 41 points and s&p 500 is up 13 points. all three of those averages moving back above their 50-day moving average. first time we've seen that since october. trader from
in fact, in my district i have a major base and defense contractors are there. they are already telling me they are laying off. >> how many cuts are you expecting? >> we don't know in total but we know there will be because they are telling us. >> i think you have to be willing to commit political harry kerry because you have to say no. >> our day in washington isn't done, just beginning. top of the next hour maria and i will be joined by senator johnny isakson. back to...
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you saw the defense stocks move down. very rare miss in home builders. they had disappointing earnings and that has not happened much in the last couple quarters with home builders. >> certainly hasn't been. bob, i will see you later. >> commodities taking a hit after the fed's move. oil is down, gold is dropping below the 1700 level. sharon is at the nimex with a $20 loss in gold, sharon? >> fading quickly from the fed of course after chairman bernanke talked about the fact that you know, this is not offsetting any impact coming from the fiscal cliff. this is where they focus on this morning and we are looking at prices that slid even more so than the wti price. that gained more than wti over the last several sections. but it is right around $108 a barrel right now. natural gas harder hit and that had much more to do with the report that came out today that is very bearish. we are looking at a key technical level, now look for the down side target around 325. that's what traders are looking at. and you mention gold below 1700 and the fact that traders a
you saw the defense stocks move down. very rare miss in home builders. they had disappointing earnings and that has not happened much in the last couple quarters with home builders. >> certainly hasn't been. bob, i will see you later. >> commodities taking a hit after the fed's move. oil is down, gold is dropping below the 1700 level. sharon is at the nimex with a $20 loss in gold, sharon? >> fading quickly from the fed of course after chairman bernanke talked about the fact...
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a slight positive on reducing non-defense spending for republicans. but then you take these last three. raising the retirement age, raising income taxes for everybody, raising medicare for spending. net negative for all three political factions. democrats, republicans, and independents. one thing you'll notice here quickly is that the red here, reducing military spending debt, is the most net negative for the republicans. even more negative than raisings taxes on all people. >> you know, i look at that. if i'm understanding it correctly, my initial reaction is, are americans just in a fantasy land over medicare spending? you can't get there unless you reduce medicare spending. >> i think that may be true. i think when we talk about leadership and political leadership taking risks, i think one of the things people have to do is politicians step forward and say, okay, here's the benefit and here's the cost. if weaver get there, we can start to poll that and ask people, will you pay "x" amount for this government service. that's really the question that'
a slight positive on reducing non-defense spending for republicans. but then you take these last three. raising the retirement age, raising income taxes for everybody, raising medicare for spending. net negative for all three political factions. democrats, republicans, and independents. one thing you'll notice here quickly is that the red here, reducing military spending debt, is the most net negative for the republicans. even more negative than raisings taxes on all people. >> you know,...
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so we keep telling clients, watch these defense contractors. it has utx, it has boeing, it has lockheed martin. these guys will be the most impacted by sequestration if this hits. so we always watch this for stress if the market is selling off for cliff reasons or if it's just a near term emotional blip. kelly, the other thing we're paying a lot of attention to is the gold market. we've been seeing investors buying a lot of protection against gold over the last month and gold has been having some big swings that have been well publicized because of the fiscal cliff action. now, why? everybody is like, all of a sudden, if we go over the cliff, gold should jump because it's a safe haven trade. not whatsoever. if we go over the cliff, that's tighter monetary reaction. that's a big cold headwind as far as the buzz is concerned out there. that's why we've been seeing a lot of people buying december and january put peps. >> david, normally this time of year, we get window dressing. i just wonder whether the opposite is happening. >> you're hitting it
so we keep telling clients, watch these defense contractors. it has utx, it has boeing, it has lockheed martin. these guys will be the most impacted by sequestration if this hits. so we always watch this for stress if the market is selling off for cliff reasons or if it's just a near term emotional blip. kelly, the other thing we're paying a lot of attention to is the gold market. we've been seeing investors buying a lot of protection against gold over the last month and gold has been having...
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lots of areas where the market could run into glitches and i think it's a great time to play defense. >> can i correctly assume that the power gauge on apple is negative, in the near term, if you are mentioning that as one factor of being bearish in 2013? >> power gauge is neutral. it's bearish on a lot of other stocks. the stock is down significantly and that's no longer driving the positive market psychology. a big drain. >> let's talk about a particular sector, because it seems like the power gauges are telling you that luxury is a sell going into next year. >> luxury and high end retail. you've got an interesting unknown dichotomy. retail stocks tend to underperform between thanksgiving and christmas, courtesy of the spoke investment group. great study they did. number two, consumer sentiment, very negative. particularly at the high end where the uncertainty over the tax rates next year is greatest. and i think this is a great area to raise cash. >> on luxury, the big thing for me is china's not 25% of the global luxury goods market and the u.s. is 20%. china is growing as a luxur
lots of areas where the market could run into glitches and i think it's a great time to play defense. >> can i correctly assume that the power gauge on apple is negative, in the near term, if you are mentioning that as one factor of being bearish in 2013? >> power gauge is neutral. it's bearish on a lot of other stocks. the stock is down significantly and that's no longer driving the positive market psychology. a big drain. >> let's talk about a particular sector, because it...
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gas by 2016 to have cleaner skies, more jobs, investment security to allow making real cuts to the defense budget. and that would encourage gas station owners and nat gas owners to work together to promote rapid acceptance of the fuel that could make our nation energy independent and create an industrial ren nance of the likes we haven't seen in decades. it can happen, it's not, though. the opportunity is being squandered and in no time, creative companies will find ways to export natural gas. and there is still time for our government to recognize the nat gas glut and take advantage. it won't last forever. stick with cramer. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it c
gas by 2016 to have cleaner skies, more jobs, investment security to allow making real cuts to the defense budget. and that would encourage gas station owners and nat gas owners to work together to promote rapid acceptance of the fuel that could make our nation energy independent and create an industrial ren nance of the likes we haven't seen in decades. it can happen, it's not, though. the opportunity is being squandered and in no time, creative companies will find ways to export natural gas....
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he said we've already cut defense. there's double cutting on both sides. >> why don't we cut foreign aid? why don't we cut -- we always talk about medicare and social security. we give a lot of money to farmers. we have big foreign aid. a lot of countries we're probably thinking you don't want to give it to. >> i think we should eliminate foreign aid with one exception, and that is we should share with people that understanding of how we did it. fernando desoto who's been out in various countries getting property rights established so that people who live on land -- most of the people in egypt live on land they don't own. live in homes that they don't technically own. they can't sell them. they can't go away for a long period of time. maybe a quarter of it is on land that's unconstitutional to live on. >> so cut that. >> but don't give them cash. but do explain to them, that the property rights are kind of important if you want to build a free society. >> how about negotiating with these drug companies? you know, the r
he said we've already cut defense. there's double cutting on both sides. >> why don't we cut foreign aid? why don't we cut -- we always talk about medicare and social security. we give a lot of money to farmers. we have big foreign aid. a lot of countries we're probably thinking you don't want to give it to. >> i think we should eliminate foreign aid with one exception, and that is we should share with people that understanding of how we did it. fernando desoto who's been out in...
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case, very bold statement there, to someone whose company will be decimated by the spending cuts to defense companies. you do not want to miss this confrontation. ricans are alwayso work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ >>> pretty clear apple stock is having its worst week in more than two years. let's get to bertha coombs with the details. >> tough end of the week ear. it's apple's horrible, awful week. today's decline saw shares hit a real technical weak point, the so-called death cross. that's where the 50-day moving average, the top line in yellow, crossed below the orange line. that's the 200-day moving average. according to the spoke investment group, the last time that happened in september 2008, shares didn't bottom until januar
case, very bold statement there, to someone whose company will be decimated by the spending cuts to defense companies. you do not want to miss this confrontation. ricans are alwayso work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global...
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. >> i was talking to a defense analyst the other day. he said the problem with all of this is the fact i'm worried about my 9-year-old. i'm worried about my 15-year-old. they're going to be paying unbelievable tax rates because we are dumping all of this on them. so on the one hand, yes, it looks like -- he looks a little crazy in this. a little goofy. at the same time, he's appealing to kids because, guess what? it's on you, kids. >> and you know what? i'm thinking that generation is not listening right now. they're not paying attention. >> when they pay the tax rates at 90% or 75% like france is doing, they'll listen. thanks, alan simpson. >> we applaud your efforts there, senator. good job. all right. we'll come back with the closing countdown. market still losing altitude. up just 94 points. >> after the bell, he said there will be no fiscal cliff deal without higher tax rates. find out if treasury secretary tim geithner thinks going over the deal is a better option than compromising on revenue. he joins us at 4:00 p.m. eastern. you'
. >> i was talking to a defense analyst the other day. he said the problem with all of this is the fact i'm worried about my 9-year-old. i'm worried about my 15-year-old. they're going to be paying unbelievable tax rates because we are dumping all of this on them. so on the one hand, yes, it looks like -- he looks a little crazy in this. a little goofy. at the same time, he's appealing to kids because, guess what? it's on you, kids. >> and you know what? i'm thinking that generation...
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let's cut hundreds of billions in defense. it doesn't indicate what missions are going to be no longer what, programs we're going to kim. i mean, we really have to be stupid to be doing that. >> so irresponsible. >> not knowing where the cuts are hitting. >> right. >> for the security of this country. >> i agree. >> so, therefore, you're going to get some agreement. maybe it's january 5th, maybe it's december 30th, january 10th, but it will probably be a band-aid agreement. that's the problem. this isn't going to be one of these long-term deficit reduction, credible agreements that does tax reform, entitlement reform. >> that's for another day. >> that's for another day, so i don't think the markets are going to real that much, but i think it will prevent the fiscal cliff. >> always good to see you, larry. >> very good insights for next year. >> ten minutes before the closing pebble. a market that's low but well off the lows of the day. real comeback on the hools of the announcement that the president and speaker boehner will
let's cut hundreds of billions in defense. it doesn't indicate what missions are going to be no longer what, programs we're going to kim. i mean, we really have to be stupid to be doing that. >> so irresponsible. >> not knowing where the cuts are hitting. >> right. >> for the security of this country. >> i agree. >> so, therefore, you're going to get some agreement. maybe it's january 5th, maybe it's december 30th, january 10th, but it will probably be a...
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defensives were black. back to you. >> let's take a look now at what's happening in markets across europe. kind of mixed trade. more decliners than advancers. some of the decliners include danone which is embarking on a cost cutting plan. but the stoxx europe 600 broadly speaking down about .25%. the major bourses have been on a nice run over the last several trading sessions today. adding to that, the ftse up another .4%. we know the sell-off that we saw on monday and the monte/berlusconi news, now berlusconi might be indicating willingness to let monti govern. the xetra dax is lower this morning. the ftse 100, too, down about 0.2% respectively. take a look at the bond curve. spain, this will be a good proxy for now. we'll get the ten year for italy in just a second. 35.34% is the level there. u.s. benefiting from fund flows well. choppy trade across the picture here. let's look at the italian curve before we get the results later today. we are seeing green across the board, so yields dipping before that p
defensives were black. back to you. >> let's take a look now at what's happening in markets across europe. kind of mixed trade. more decliners than advancers. some of the decliners include danone which is embarking on a cost cutting plan. but the stoxx europe 600 broadly speaking down about .25%. the major bourses have been on a nice run over the last several trading sessions today. adding to that, the ftse up another .4%. we know the sell-off that we saw on monday and the...
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be a little bit defensive and clearly the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff. it doesn't seem to be having an impact. i find that remarkable. >> john, that isn't within ben bernanke's power. they're almost a lone actor here, responding to everything. >> that's right. in fact, ben bernanke has created a bigger put, as you talked about the greenspan put, but the bernanke put has been explicit. he's talked about the transmission of quantitative easing through the equity market as being a major transmission mechanism of the monetary policy. >> sure. >> i think that's a little bit worrying. because if the fed is not willing to let the market tighten, when will they take liquidity off the table when inflation threatens. >> gentlemen, we will leave it there. john and mark, thank you. we will, of course, see what the fed does this afternoon. stay tuned to cnbc for live coverage of that decision. it all starts at 12:15 eastern. hear what the federal reserve chairman ben bernanke has to say to the type of criticism that we just heard live on cnbc. that news conference th
be a little bit defensive and clearly the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff. it doesn't seem to be having an impact. i find that remarkable. >> john, that isn't within ben bernanke's power. they're almost a lone actor here, responding to everything. >> that's right. in fact, ben bernanke has created a bigger put, as you talked about the greenspan put, but the bernanke put has been explicit. he's talked about the transmission of quantitative easing through the equity market as being a...
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>> i think people have to be defensive in the short term. there will be a lot of rancor on both sides. so within the next month or so, as the fiscal cliff debate developments, there is limited up side for interest rates and it's hard to see stocks moving much higher. >> so let's suppose we get an agreement. that should increase confidence. does that mean the economy performs better next year than we expect and then what's the feed through from that? >> yeah, i think while we're now focused on a lot of the down side risks not only from the fiscal cliff but obviously also from the eurozone crisis, we may have overlooked some of these up side potential for next year. so if we get a favorable resolution for the fiscal cliff, i think we can see interest rates move up quite sharply. that would be because expectations for growth could be much higher, so if growth is around the 2% in the first half of the year, we could be haufing over the 3% range in the second half of the rear. that would mean higher interest rates and that could be a very poor re
>> i think people have to be defensive in the short term. there will be a lot of rancor on both sides. so within the next month or so, as the fiscal cliff debate developments, there is limited up side for interest rates and it's hard to see stocks moving much higher. >> so let's suppose we get an agreement. that should increase confidence. does that mean the economy performs better next year than we expect and then what's the feed through from that? >> yeah, i think while...
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you'll raise some taxes, yes, that's true, you'll cut defense and some human services. this is the only way we'll have a significant bite out of this deficit. i think the market is going to like this. they say no right now, but when they see that this government is taking on the deficit in a serious way i think they will like it >> you don't think going over the cliff is armageddon? >> this is just nonsense, absolutely not. this is a bipartisan deal that was made. now both parties are trying to welch on their commitments. i think that's a mistake. >> steve, ben bernanke said today if we do go over the fiscal cliff, even if it's for a short period of time, it's going to be very costly and they do not have the tools to basically dig us out of it. do you believe if we go over the fiscal cliff it won't be as easy as the governor is suggesting? >> we're in trouble anyway this quarter and the next quarter and putting on taxes of any kind would be the wrong thing to do. sometimes the governor is a former physician, current physician, and you learn first go don't harm the patie
you'll raise some taxes, yes, that's true, you'll cut defense and some human services. this is the only way we'll have a significant bite out of this deficit. i think the market is going to like this. they say no right now, but when they see that this government is taking on the deficit in a serious way i think they will like it >> you don't think going over the cliff is armageddon? >> this is just nonsense, absolutely not. this is a bipartisan deal that was made. now both parties...
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. >> in mike's defense, the stock looks like it's in much stronger hands than it was two, three years ago, and there's no more government supply coming. >> i agree 100% with enis. i think 32 looks like a great part. again, if you look at the chart, when this things makes moves, the last move was from 34 to 24, the move it just made is ten pints from its slow. would i say the next move is, you know, to 41, and that's a pretty good return from this price >> i sense you guys are not all that far apart in your opinions on this stock, if only you were the ones negotiating the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for joining us on "talking numbers." >> up next, we'll ask leader from both parties what they are willing to give up. representative lynn jenkins and x xafier becerra will join mvier . >>> all right. let's take a look at markets as we head towards the close. 30 minutes left, maria, and, you know, the optimism of this morning has been tempered by those comments from senator harry reid, apparently, that we would not have a deal, he didn't think, before christmas, and that it was up to the re
. >> in mike's defense, the stock looks like it's in much stronger hands than it was two, three years ago, and there's no more government supply coming. >> i agree 100% with enis. i think 32 looks like a great part. again, if you look at the chart, when this things makes moves, the last move was from 34 to 24, the move it just made is ten pints from its slow. would i say the next move is, you know, to 41, and that's a pretty good return from this price >> i sense you guys are...
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the philadelphia defense index, the main index everyone watches in defense stocks, historic high today. all the big name defense stocks are to the upside. raytheon, northrop, rockwell. all are up and outperforming the market this month. who would have thunk it? say what you will. these stocks are having big worries on sequestration. put up my two main points and i'll tell you what i think is going on here. even though the threat is looming here they're ignoring it. i think regardless. everything i read indicates there's budget uncertainty and slower bookings comes from all the defense names. frankly them trading at a slight premium to the market now strikes me as a bit odd. nonetheless, that's what's going on. let me also mention the airlines. because the airline index is hitting a 52-week high today. there is some general optimism. delta, there's actual deals. kell t delta is buying into southwest. 49% stake from singapore. good commerce from some of the airlines recently. let me show you what i think is happening. more consolidation coming here. we're talking about some of the deals
the philadelphia defense index, the main index everyone watches in defense stocks, historic high today. all the big name defense stocks are to the upside. raytheon, northrop, rockwell. all are up and outperforming the market this month. who would have thunk it? say what you will. these stocks are having big worries on sequestration. put up my two main points and i'll tell you what i think is going on here. even though the threat is looming here they're ignoring it. i think regardless....
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was all together, we liked the itt's defense business and we liked this company. but you know what? sir, i've not looked at it either since the spinoff. we owe you to look at that and we will. i've been telling people that clean harbors is the way to play. i'm looking at xylem. they pick these things, hey, whatever, they've got the naming guys, i would have called it itt cleanup. anyway, we're going to look at it for you. don't let economic worries jade you. mexico's economy is thriving, it just doesn't get talked about. and i think kansas city southern is the way to benefit. >> all aboard! >> it's the nafta railroad except for it doesn't take away our jobs. don't move, "lightning round's" coming. >>> keep up with cramer all day long. follow @jimcramer on twitter and tweet your questions #madtweets. welcome to chevy's year-end event. so, the 5.3-liter v-8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer power? [ laughing ] [ stops laughing ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. this holiday season, trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edi
was all together, we liked the itt's defense business and we liked this company. but you know what? sir, i've not looked at it either since the spinoff. we owe you to look at that and we will. i've been telling people that clean harbors is the way to play. i'm looking at xylem. they pick these things, hey, whatever, they've got the naming guys, i would have called it itt cleanup. anyway, we're going to look at it for you. don't let economic worries jade you. mexico's economy is thriving, it...
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. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down the line. that's in if first month, six weeks of the new year. >> the other thing, depending on where you stand, the idea that we just get rid of congressional approval of the debt ceiling at all, which is that ludicrous proposal that was in the president's plan. that's not -- and would you really want that? would you really want not having any more oversight over whether we keep raising the debt? >> but there's also a compromise that's potentially there on that as well. >>
. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double...
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defense here. you can still make it. it gives the opportunity to at least make a final defense so to speak as to why they shouldn't take action. we'll see what that defense is when mr. hastings -- we have a sense for it given what they wrote yesterday. >> i'm sure it will be closely watched. we should be clear that we didn't see too much reaction in the stock for good reason. this is really a slap on the wrist in the scheme of things. this will be closely watched because i'm sure other companies will want to know whether if they tweet something, is that fair disclosure. if they use facebook and that will have ramifications in terms of how companies choose to share information with investors. the other point that it raises just thinking about information that can move the markets, this is separate from the s.e.c. in a wells notice, there are many days where we have economic data that is released and it is released a few minutes beforehand to subscribers to that service. is that fair? that's not the s.e.c.'s purview but it
defense here. you can still make it. it gives the opportunity to at least make a final defense so to speak as to why they shouldn't take action. we'll see what that defense is when mr. hastings -- we have a sense for it given what they wrote yesterday. >> i'm sure it will be closely watched. we should be clear that we didn't see too much reaction in the stock for good reason. this is really a slap on the wrist in the scheme of things. this will be closely watched because i'm sure other...
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paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the ground breaking of hotels in new york. we'll be speaking to the ceo in this hour. >> whitehorse is an interesting story. >> white house, delayed over at the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange puts out a release reiterating 16 companies have announced or moved to the big board so for this year. you're starting to wonder who would go public on the nasdaq. >> still waiting for the
paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the...
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manti te'o is the first defensive winner since 1980. heisman is handed out saturday night in new york city. in the running, collin klein, johnny ma johnny manziel and manti te'o. >> coming up, it's jobs friday. people know that. so that means time for predictions from our guest hosts. but first, the world's largest cut stone on display. called the dom pedro gem. more than a foot tall. weighs nearly five pounds. [ penélope ] i found the best cafe in the world. nespresso. where i never have to compromise on anything. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect coffee. where every cappuccino and latte is only made with fresh milk. and where the staff is exceptionally friendly. ♪ nespresso. what else? can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on grounipping at fedex office. made a retirement plan, they c
manti te'o is the first defensive winner since 1980. heisman is handed out saturday night in new york city. in the running, collin klein, johnny ma johnny manziel and manti te'o. >> coming up, it's jobs friday. people know that. so that means time for predictions from our guest hosts. but first, the world's largest cut stone on display. called the dom pedro gem. more than a foot tall. weighs nearly five pounds. [ penélope ] i found the best cafe in the world. nespresso. where i never...
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we've got defense cuts, about there's $4 trillion, documented numbers spent to defeat our enemies, who aso is that coming. how do you cut that budget. >> maybe to corporate's point, if you accede to the president on tax hikes, then you shift the debate purely on, okay, we've given, let's focus on the spending side. >> it's dangerous. spending side means -- >> they need to compromise that's actually worthwhile. >> if you raise taxes, you lose in the republican primary, and if you cut benefits, you lose everywhere, no matter republican or democrat. everybody knows that. dic dicey. >> running for higher taxes? i mean, look, i'm not pro -- i think that frits van paasschen who has a big bet on china, he laid it out. he said we need both. i was listening to cody from honeywell, it's a dangerous position to want both tax increases and entitlement cuts. i hear very few politicians wanting to do that. >> speaking of china, by the way, mostly upbeat data out of china. 10.1% in november, strongest since march. exports rose at a weaker pace. the planned resignation of italian prime minister mario
we've got defense cuts, about there's $4 trillion, documented numbers spent to defeat our enemies, who aso is that coming. how do you cut that budget. >> maybe to corporate's point, if you accede to the president on tax hikes, then you shift the debate purely on, okay, we've given, let's focus on the spending side. >> it's dangerous. spending side means -- >> they need to compromise that's actually worthwhile. >> if you raise taxes, you lose in the republican primary,...
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as you know, house republicans are in defense of that law. there was a $1.5 million cost cap outside counsel to fund that, but according to house democrats, that cost cap has decreased. do you is not the idea of raising that to pay for it? >> if the justice department is not going to enforce the law of the land, the congress will. thank you all. >> there's house speaker john boehner walking off the podium after handling a number of questions. what he seemed to underscore is the fact that there has not been much progress made. he said it is clear the president has not committed to cutting spending. the president needs to step up at this time and that the president is intent on slow walking the economy right up to the edge of the fiscal cliff. as for market reaction, markets taking a little bit of a pause here. we're off the session lows at this point. what was notable, though, was a pop in the volatility index. and that was up by 2% at last check. let's bring in john harwood to get more reaction to what speaker boehner just said. john. >> repo
as you know, house republicans are in defense of that law. there was a $1.5 million cost cap outside counsel to fund that, but according to house democrats, that cost cap has decreased. do you is not the idea of raising that to pay for it? >> if the justice department is not going to enforce the law of the land, the congress will. thank you all. >> there's house speaker john boehner walking off the podium after handling a number of questions. what he seemed to underscore is the fact...
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because they were -- i mean, they got a great defensive line, they sacked toney romo. they had him under pressure. a.j. green, who is great, dropped a bunch of passes and they had about three or four dropped interceptions that would have turned it around. they didn't convert some third -- i watched the whole game and as i said, it was devastating for just a regular season games. >> i've been a bengals fan, seriously, since ken anderson. >> gregg cook. >> yeah, craig cook from the university of cincinnati. i remember those guys. i loved them. bob trumping, chris collinsworth. john harwood, thank you. and i was happening that rg3, no real damage, hopefully. comments, questions on anything you see here on squawk, e-mail us, squawk@cnbc.com. >>> still to come, one of the most cited voices since the fiscal cliff, erskine bowles. he he loves the rise above. first, we're going to head to the futures pits in chicago and see which stories are most likely to drive today's trading. as we head to break, some of santa's friends dawned swimsuits this weekend to take part in the sant
because they were -- i mean, they got a great defensive line, they sacked toney romo. they had him under pressure. a.j. green, who is great, dropped a bunch of passes and they had about three or four dropped interceptions that would have turned it around. they didn't convert some third -- i watched the whole game and as i said, it was devastating for just a regular season games. >> i've been a bengals fan, seriously, since ken anderson. >> gregg cook. >> yeah, craig cook from...
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moving along, reducing non-defense spending and come down to the least acceptable thing for everybody involved is reducing medicare spending. you want to know how to fix the fiscal cliff? you have to raise taxes on those 250 above and cap deductions and a cap in deductions on everybody loon looks to be marginally acceptable. we'll have a chance to talk about that chart later but i hear you have some interesting guests on this issue coming up. >> we're talking about that chart and will catch you up later. also the joint economic committee will hold a hearing on the fiscal cliff. can congress come up with a compromise before the looming deadline? senator robert casey and jec vice chairman tom brady joins us from texas. thank you for being here. you have a lot of things happening behind the scenes. senator casey, i know you have said what we're watching is a lot of drama and probably taking our eye off the ball in terms of what's happening. can you tell us if there's progress being made behind the scenes? >> i think there's a little bit too much attention paid to the back and forth every
moving along, reducing non-defense spending and come down to the least acceptable thing for everybody involved is reducing medicare spending. you want to know how to fix the fiscal cliff? you have to raise taxes on those 250 above and cap deductions and a cap in deductions on everybody loon looks to be marginally acceptable. we'll have a chance to talk about that chart later but i hear you have some interesting guests on this issue coming up. >> we're talking about that chart and will...
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we still want to be in very defensive sectors. and that really has nothing to do with the fed. which was the original question that you were asking. i think it has to come much more from the fiscal and the regulatory side and it doesn't look like you're going to get much of a deal there. >> hmm. so you -- you think -- so now we're back to the fiscal cliff. you think there is no deal coming? or you think we're getting a baby deal? >> i think you're getting a baby deal. and i think without structural. true structural reform i don't think you're going to have the types of risk taking on the part of businesses that would generate real growth. and i think there is a yawning gap between business confidence and consumer confidence right now. capital spending is already weakened. but consumer confidence still remains relatively high. >> when does it hit the consumer? >> i think really in the first quarter. because especially if the payroll tax cut is not extended, which it seems very possible, that is a very big deal. i also think you really have to watch to see whether the debt ceilin
we still want to be in very defensive sectors. and that really has nothing to do with the fed. which was the original question that you were asking. i think it has to come much more from the fiscal and the regulatory side and it doesn't look like you're going to get much of a deal there. >> hmm. so you -- you think -- so now we're back to the fiscal cliff. you think there is no deal coming? or you think we're getting a baby deal? >> i think you're getting a baby deal. and i think...
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police arrested and booked the 24-year-old brent, a defensive lineman into the irving city jail on one count of intoxicating manslaughter. >> our officers on scene felt as if alcohol was a contributing factor in the accident, so mr. price brent was asked to perform some field sobriety tests. after he performed those tests along with our officers' observations and the conversations they had with him, he was placed under arrest for driving while intoxicated. >> reporter: the dallas cowboys learned of the death of one teammate and the arrest of another before they boarded a flight to cincinnati where they'll play the bengals on sunday. team owner jerry jones issue add statement that read, we are deeply saddened by the news of this accident and the passing of jerry brown. at this time our hearts and prayers and deepest sympathies are with the members of jerry's family and all of those who knew him and loved him. one week ago, the nfl was shaken by the death of kansas city linebacker jovan belcher who shot and killed his girlfriend and then traveled to the facility and killed himself in fro
police arrested and booked the 24-year-old brent, a defensive lineman into the irving city jail on one count of intoxicating manslaughter. >> our officers on scene felt as if alcohol was a contributing factor in the accident, so mr. price brent was asked to perform some field sobriety tests. after he performed those tests along with our officers' observations and the conversations they had with him, he was placed under arrest for driving while intoxicated. >> reporter: the dallas...
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a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act. and also, california's proposition-8 and how's this for a backdrop? in washington state, thousands of gay couples got married on sunday. and the new year promises the same for those in maryland and maine when their new state laws take effect. right now, same-sex marriage is legal in nine states and washington, but it's either banned or not recognized in more than 30 states and just not recognized at all by federal law either. that's the defense of marriage act. a high court has been split on nearly every major decision. john roberts has also been a wild card on occasion, so as you can imagine, past opinions of these people have become a bit of a window perhaps to what future decisions may yield and this has critics and supporters of gay marriage on edge and waiting and that includes evan wils wilson, the director of freedom to marry or god father of the gay marriage movement. so, i hear people asking the question of either people who are before or against the issue of gay marriage. yo
a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act. and also, california's proposition-8 and how's this for a backdrop? in washington state, thousands of gay couples got married on sunday. and the new year promises the same for those in maryland and maine when their new state laws take effect. right now, same-sex marriage is legal in nine states and washington, but it's either banned or not recognized in more than 30 states and just not recognized at all by federal law either. that's the...
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syrian air defenses could bring down u.s. pilots if fighter jets are used. the regime could move its chemical weapons even minutes before an attack. and if the weapons start moving around, that poses another dire consideration. officials worry that terrorists could then move in and try to seize control of this deadly arsenal. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> thanks. >>> earlier i spoke with a reporter from amsterdam, and he talked about how marijuana affected that city. next, we're going to have a seattle city leader listen to what he said to us. and is his city ready for pot being legal? that's next. ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the season of audi event. with odor free aspercreme. powerful medicine relieves pain fast, with no odor. so all you notice is relief. aspercreme. >>> marijuana has gone legit. as of thursday recreational use is legal in washington state, and that
syrian air defenses could bring down u.s. pilots if fighter jets are used. the regime could move its chemical weapons even minutes before an attack. and if the weapons start moving around, that poses another dire consideration. officials worry that terrorists could then move in and try to seize control of this deadly arsenal. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> thanks. >>> earlier i spoke with a reporter from amsterdam, and he talked about how marijuana affected that city. next,...
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>> just on the defense sector alone, you're looking at $55 billion in cuts just to the defense budget. you have to look at the ancillary part of this. you look at real estate holdings, homes that are have a close proximity to defense. >> final question for you, todd, a major confusion going on here, it's about this so-called $250,000 there are hold for house holds, does this mean that all of the first $250,000 that you make is taxed at a higher rate, or just the money above $250,000? >> it's actually your taxable income. according to irs data, you will actually see that people that are earning $250,000 actually are itemizing up to $20,000. so in other words it's your net amount after those tax deductions, once you start getting into more tax deductions, once you're earning more, you actually expect that the number will go higher than 250,000 dlrks, some exists are predicting the number is going to be upwards of $300,000. so if you're making up to 300,000 and below, there's a good chance none of these taxes are going to impact you. >>> a popular mexican-american singer is missing, she
>> just on the defense sector alone, you're looking at $55 billion in cuts just to the defense budget. you have to look at the ancillary part of this. you look at real estate holdings, homes that are have a close proximity to defense. >> final question for you, todd, a major confusion going on here, it's about this so-called $250,000 there are hold for house holds, does this mean that all of the first $250,000 that you make is taxed at a higher rate, or just the money above...
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defense has to be on the table. everything has to be on the table. you have to begin this negotiation by agreeing that they're not going to be any preconditions. everything's going to be on the table, you ought to also have an agreement that nothing will be decided until everything is decided. you ought to also have an agreement that it will be done in confidence and behind closed doors. because it makes it exthe rec d extraordinary difficult when you try to do it -- we did social security totally privately behind closed doors. >> so you think the way it's being done by the white house and the republicans is wrong? >> i don't think they'll ever get there doing it this way, they're just jousting with each other and each side is repeating its campaign talking points. you need to have a serious, confidential substantial negotiation by the top levels of both parties. >> you are a political animal, looking at this, the situation, what is your gut? who's going to win? >> i don't know. what we ought to be talking about is not who's going to be win, but how
defense has to be on the table. everything has to be on the table. you have to begin this negotiation by agreeing that they're not going to be any preconditions. everything's going to be on the table, you ought to also have an agreement that nothing will be decided until everything is decided. you ought to also have an agreement that it will be done in confidence and behind closed doors. because it makes it exthe rec d extraordinary difficult when you try to do it -- we did social security...
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. >> reporter: just a couple miles in the pentagon, many of the people here work directly for the defense department and it's contractors. the defense industry is facing $125 billion of direct -- in addition several key tax ben fis are scheduled to expire at the end of the year that will have a direct impact on the pocket books of many americans. take a couple with one child in new york earning $100,000. their tax rate jumps from 25% to 28%. they could be hit by the alternative minimum tax. the child tax credit drops from $1,000 to $500 and payroll taxes could be $2,000 more next year. for a single 25-year-old in michigan who works full-time earning $30,000 a year going to school part-time, his tax rate would stay the same at 15%. but he would lose the american education tax credit and have to pay more than $600 in payroll taxes. and even though it's weeks before the changes would take effect the impact is already being felt because of uncertainty. 401(k) plans are taking a hit. companies are putting freezes on hiring. and the retail sector which makes most of its money in the final weeks
. >> reporter: just a couple miles in the pentagon, many of the people here work directly for the defense department and it's contractors. the defense industry is facing $125 billion of direct -- in addition several key tax ben fis are scheduled to expire at the end of the year that will have a direct impact on the pocket books of many americans. take a couple with one child in new york earning $100,000. their tax rate jumps from 25% to 28%. they could be hit by the alternative minimum...
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defense has to be on the table. everything has to be on table. you have to begin this any dpoesh yags by agrees there are knoll going to be any preconditions. even's going to be on the table. you have to also agree nothing will be decided until everything is decided. you also have to agree everything will be done in confidence and bhoofrd behind closed doors. it's extraordinarily difficult when you try to do it. it looks like the campaign is continuing. that's where we are today. we did social security totally plievt behind closed doors. >> so you think the way they're doing it is just wrong. >> i don't think they'll ever get this this way. they're jousting each other. each side is repeating its campaign talking points. you need to have a serious confidenti confidential, substantial negotiation by top levels of both parties. >> you are a political animal. looking at this, this situation, what is your gut? who's going to win? >> i don't know. who we ought to be talking about is not who's going to win but how can the country win? look. in the short
defense has to be on the table. everything has to be on table. you have to begin this any dpoesh yags by agrees there are knoll going to be any preconditions. even's going to be on the table. you have to also agree nothing will be decided until everything is decided. you also have to agree everything will be done in confidence and bhoofrd behind closed doors. it's extraordinarily difficult when you try to do it. it looks like the campaign is continuing. that's where we are today. we did social...